http://www.stardestroyer.net/wiki/index.php?title=Talk:The_Force&feed=atom&action=historyTalk:The Force - Revision history2024-03-29T09:46:04ZRevision history for this page on the wikiMediaWiki 1.36.2http://www.stardestroyer.net/wiki/index.php?title=Talk:The_Force&diff=17732&oldid=prevEleas: /* The Force and force fields */2010-08-04T18:05:23Z<p><span dir="auto"><span class="autocomment">The Force and force fields</span></span></p>
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<tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:: Starship shields, however, seem to be reactive by nature; they only seem to activate when blocking incoming energy. If the shields did not recognize currents of the Force as an attack, they might not be able to provide a defence. Alternatively, perhaps they're simply optimized to a higher degree than Droideka shields would be.</div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:: Starship shields, however, seem to be reactive by nature; they only seem to activate when blocking incoming energy. If the shields did not recognize currents of the Force as an attack, they might not be able to provide a defence. Alternatively, perhaps they're simply optimized to a higher degree than Droideka shields would be<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">, reducing the amount of leakage and thus interference</ins>.</div></td></tr>
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</table>Eleashttp://www.stardestroyer.net/wiki/index.php?title=Talk:The_Force&diff=17731&oldid=prevEleas at 17:54, 4 August 20102010-08-04T17:54:07Z<p></p>
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<tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:: A prison explicitly designed to hold Force-sensitives was introduced as early as Dark Empire (the "Leth Universal Energy Cage"). <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">It's </del>stated to interact with the Force in some way. It's notable that the cage employs other methods as well, such as a stun charge. </div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:: A prison explicitly designed to hold Force-sensitives was introduced as early as Dark Empire (the "Leth Universal Energy Cage"). <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">The device is </ins>stated <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">as being able </ins>to interact with the Force in some way. It's notable that the cage employs other methods as well, such as a stun charge<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">; the prison doesn't rely solely on this Force-dampening effect</ins>.</div></td></tr>
<tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:: It's likely that the Force can't be directly tapped into by technological means, or we would have seen its applications on a broader scale. But as we know, the Force is an energy field. It may be that the cage simply seeks to put out as much "noise" as possible, in the hopes that some small portion of it will interfere sufficiently to prevent the prisoner from connecting with the Force.</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:: It's likely that the Force can't be directly tapped into by technological means, or we would have seen its applications on a broader scale. But as we know, the Force is an energy field. It may be that the cage simply seeks to put out as much "noise" as possible, in the hopes that some small portion of it will interfere sufficiently to prevent the prisoner from connecting with the Force.</div></td></tr>
<tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:: We also know that Droidekas carry shields that would be deleterious for organics. They are heavy-duty, but also put out a lot of radiation. This, too, could <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">be </del>interference (perhaps <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">just </del>enough for the Jedi to hesitate or leave himself open to a body shot).</div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:: We also know that Droidekas carry shields that would be deleterious for organics. They are heavy-duty, but also put out a lot of radiation. This, too, could <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">translate into being a source of </ins>interference <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">with the Force </ins>(<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">not necessarily to the point of making Droidekas immune, but </ins>perhaps enough for the Jedi to hesitate or leave himself open to a body shot).</div></td></tr>
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<tr><td colspan="2"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">:: We also know that Droidekas carry shields that would be deleterious for organics. They are heavy-duty, but also put out a lot of radiation. This, too, could be interference (perhaps just enough for the Jedi to hesitate or leave himself open to a body shot).</ins></div></td></tr>
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<tr><td colspan="2"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">: I can't think of any events in the movies (or in the novels, offhand) where telekinesis was used through shielding. However, telepathy seems to work through shielding:</ins></div></td></tr>
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<tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>* The shielded Droideka's on the TradeFed flagship in TPM drove off Qui-Gon and Obi-Wan. Qui-Gon said the situation was a stand-off, since the droids' blasts couldn't get through the <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">Jedis</del>' defense, but the reflected blaster shots didn't penetrated the droids' shields. Why not just use the Force to disable these droids, as they did many other battle droids in the movie? The shield seems to be the only significant difference.</div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>* The shielded Droideka's on the TradeFed flagship in TPM drove off Qui-Gon and Obi-Wan. Qui-Gon said the situation was a stand-off, since the droids' blasts couldn't get through the <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">Jedi</ins>'<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">s </ins>defense, but the reflected blaster shots didn't penetrated the droids' shields. Why not just use the Force to disable these droids, as they did many other battle droids in the movie? The shield seems to be the only significant difference.</div></td></tr>
<tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>* Count Dooku used some kind of force field to restrain Obi-Wan Kenobi on Geonosis.</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>* Count Dooku used some kind of force field to restrain Obi-Wan Kenobi on Geonosis.</div></td></tr>
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What are general opinions about the ability of Jedi to affect objects protected by force fields. Are there canon incidents of this happening? It seems that force fields have frustrated Jedi on multiple occasions in the prequel movies:<br />
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* The shielded Droideka's on the TradeFed flagship in TPM drove off Qui-Gon and Obi-Wan. Qui-Gon said the situation was a stand-off, since the droids' blasts couldn't get through the Jedis' defense, but the reflected blaster shots didn't penetrated the droids' shields. Why not just use the Force to disable these droids, as they did many other battle droids in the movie? The shield seems to be the only significant difference.<br />
* A ray shield trapped Anakin and Obi-Wan in ROTS. Using the Force to telekinetically disable the field emitter would seem to be the obvious solution, but it occurs to neither Jedi. Are they just stupid, or is there a reason they can't use the Force that way?<br />
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--[[User:Ted C|Ted C]] 15:53, 4 March 2008 (EST)</div>Ted C