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The [[Galactic Empire]] stepped away from clones as the primary source for the military between the end of the Clone Wars and the destruction of the first [[Death Star]] at [[Yavin]], and by the [[Thrawn]] era Imperial Commando teams consisted of traditional exceptional personnel drawn from the general military.
The [[Galactic Empire]] stepped away from clones as the primary source for the military between the end of the Clone Wars and the destruction of the first [[Death Star]] at [[Yavin]], and by the [[Thrawn]] era Imperial Commando teams consisted of traditional exceptional personnel drawn from the general military.


During this time the Empire utilized alien specialists known as [[Noghri]] for activities that required concealment of Imperial involvement.  After it became clear that the Empire was intentionally dragging its feet in restoring the Noghri homworld, the Noghri defected and joined the [[New Republic]].
During this time the Empire utilized alien specialists known as [[Noghri]] for activities that required concealment of Imperial involvement.  After it became clear that the Empire was intentionally dragging its feet in restoring the Noghri homeworld, the Noghri defected and joined the [[New Republic]].


==Rebel Alliance/New Republic==
==Rebel Alliance/New Republic==
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During the course of both the [[TNG]] and [[DS9]] series there was one, count 'em, ''one'' Federation individual who had a specialization in special operations. Despite this, his primary function in the show was to ''recruit'' Dr. [[Julian Bashir]] into Section 31!   
During the course of both the [[TNG]] and [[DS9]] series there was one, count 'em, ''one'' Federation individual who had a specialization in special operations. Despite this, his primary function in the show was to ''recruit'' Dr. [[Julian Bashir]] into Section 31!   


For the most part there are no (public) Special Forces in the Federation, with the teams that are put together (whether for boarding ships or sent on recon missions) being adhoc assemblages using both standard Starfleet equipment and personnel. In one famous example, a Special Forces team was assembled from the command crew of the [[Enterprise-D]], to infiltrate a Cardassian base!!
For the most part there are no (public) Special Forces in the Federation, with the teams that are put together (whether for boarding ships or sent on recon missions) being ad hoc assemblages using both standard Starfleet equipment and personnel. In one famous example, a Special Forces team was assembled from the command crew of the [[Enterprise-D]], to infiltrate a Cardassian base!!


Interestingly, there is at least one firearm that suggests it was designed for special operations, but it has been seen in only one [[DS9]] episode.
Interestingly, there is at least one firearm that suggests it was designed for special operations, but it has been seen in only one [[DS9]] episode.
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===Obsidan Order and Tal'Shiar Capabilities===
===Obsidan Order and Tal'Shiar Capabilities===
As shown in the [[DS9]] episode ''The Die is Cast''; the Obsidan Order and Tal'Shiar were able to amass a quite large fleet of modern first line warships. While this was supposedly in contravention of their founding charter; it beggars the mind to believe that they were able to amass a significant amount of '''first line''' warships without anyone else in the military or governmental chain of command noticing, hence it is more plausible to believe that they had a standing fleet, along the lines of the Soviet/Russian Border Guards.
As shown in the [[DS9]] episode ''The Die is Cast''; the Obsidian Order and Tal'Shiar were able to amass a quite large fleet of modern first line warships. While this was supposedly in contravention of their founding charter; it beggars the mind to believe that they were able to amass a significant amount of '''first line''' warships without anyone else in the military or governmental chain of command noticing, hence it is more plausible to believe that they had a standing fleet, along the lines of the Soviet/Russian Border Guards.


[http://www.hazegray.org/worldnav/russia/bord_grd.htm Information on Warships used by the USSR/Russian Border Guards]
[http://www.hazegray.org/worldnav/russia/bord_grd.htm Information on Warships used by the USSR/Russian Border Guards]


While many of the Soviet/Russian Border Guards ships are small patrol boats, they also have several quite powerful warships, such as the '''Krivak-III''' class frigate.
While many of the Soviet/Russian Border Guards ships are small patrol boats, they also have several quite powerful warships, such as the '''Krivak-III''' class frigate.

Revision as of 01:18, 14 November 2007

Overview

Trektards will often throw up a number of methods in which the UFP, and others, could resist an Imperial invasion of the Milky Way. Most of these unusual methods necessitate use of special operations-type forces, and when the displayed capabilities of the Star Wars Universe, and that of the Milky Way(of the TNG era) are compared some interesting conclusions can be drawn.

Star Wars Special Operations

Jedi

During the Republic era, the primary law enforcement arm was the Jedi Order based on Coruscant. The Jedi operated as all-in-one Diplomats, Cops, Intelligence Agents, "Internal Security" (as inferred from the casualness of chopping arms off in crowded nightclubs) and Special Forces. Many times the Jedi would have to be augmented by paramilitaries such as Freedom's Son's, due to the fact that Jedi, while being really good, still can be defeated by a sufficiently large number of enemies.

Due to the extraordinary nature of the Jedi and their abilities they cannot be considered "true" special forces.

Clone Wars Era

When the Fett-strain clone army was being built by the Kaminoans, it was clear that the Jedi would be acting as the Generals, and would not be on hand in numbers to fulfill the special operations role. The so-called Republic Commandos operate in 4-man teams and took part in the full spectrum of special operations, to include hostage rescue, boarding of enemy vessels, snatch-and-grab, and sabotage behind enemy lines. Commandos were used extensively and to great success during the Clone Wars. Other clone strains that operated in a Special forces role included the Advanced Recon or ARC Troopers. ARC troopers were deployed in larger groups than Republic Commandos, but often played a similar overall role on the battlefield. They were noted as being much closer to Jango Fett than other clone lines.

Imperial/Post Endor Era

The Galactic Empire stepped away from clones as the primary source for the military between the end of the Clone Wars and the destruction of the first Death Star at Yavin, and by the Thrawn era Imperial Commando teams consisted of traditional exceptional personnel drawn from the general military.

During this time the Empire utilized alien specialists known as Noghri for activities that required concealment of Imperial involvement. After it became clear that the Empire was intentionally dragging its feet in restoring the Noghri homeworld, the Noghri defected and joined the New Republic.

Rebel Alliance/New Republic

The Rebel Alliance (and later the New Republic) utilized their own specialized Commandos in the form of Page's Commandos and Wraith Squadron, to name two examples.

Star Trek Special Operations

United Federation of Planets

The Federation as of the TNG era has been reduced to drafting unspecialized personnel off of starships to perform covert operations whenever the need arose, rather than having its own Special Forces branch with trained specialists.

During the course of both the TNG and DS9 series there was one, count 'em, one Federation individual who had a specialization in special operations. Despite this, his primary function in the show was to recruit Dr. Julian Bashir into Section 31!

For the most part there are no (public) Special Forces in the Federation, with the teams that are put together (whether for boarding ships or sent on recon missions) being ad hoc assemblages using both standard Starfleet equipment and personnel. In one famous example, a Special Forces team was assembled from the command crew of the Enterprise-D, to infiltrate a Cardassian base!!

Interestingly, there is at least one firearm that suggests it was designed for special operations, but it has been seen in only one DS9 episode.

Other Trek Powers

The Cardassian Union and Romulan Star Empire had their own special operations agencies represented with the Obsidian Order and Tal'Shiar, respectively.

While the Obsidian Order managed to produce some effective agents (Elim Garak), the substantial number of warships both agencies had suggested a role in line with the Soviet Union's NKVD/KGB of protecting the regime from the regular military rather than straight out unconventional warfare.

Obsidan Order and Tal'Shiar Capabilities

As shown in the DS9 episode The Die is Cast; the Obsidian Order and Tal'Shiar were able to amass a quite large fleet of modern first line warships. While this was supposedly in contravention of their founding charter; it beggars the mind to believe that they were able to amass a significant amount of first line warships without anyone else in the military or governmental chain of command noticing, hence it is more plausible to believe that they had a standing fleet, along the lines of the Soviet/Russian Border Guards.

Information on Warships used by the USSR/Russian Border Guards

While many of the Soviet/Russian Border Guards ships are small patrol boats, they also have several quite powerful warships, such as the Krivak-III class frigate.