JMSpock

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JMSpock is a 'versus' debator and very stupid person. He also goes under the name of JediMasterSpock in the StarfleetJedi.net[[1]] forums where he is the administrator.


JMSpock's greatest hits

The following quotes are collected from various forums and webpages and serve to show his scientific ignorance and dishonesty.

JMSpock claiming that Death Star cannot be considered a starship: "The Death Star is not maneuverable like a starship, nor as densely sprinkled with weapons mounts, nor as proportionally heavily armored; it is essentially a giant battlestation with a superweapon and hyperdrive slapped on-"Link

His first complaint is obviously meaningless since a starship will inevitably become less maneuverable as it's size, and therefore mass, grows. Thus X-wing will be more maneuverable than a Star Destroyer which will, in turn, be more maneuverable than the Death Star. None of this has anything to do with whether Death Star is a ship. His second claim about weapon concentration is completely besides the point since definition of ship requires an object to be mobile. Furthermore he ignores the fact that Death Star possesses superlaser weapon which far outstrips any weapon on smaller ships even when accounting for size difference. His final remark about hyperdrive being "slapped on" is nothing but a dishonest attempt to bolster his argument without bothering to provide any evidence to support his claim.


Mike DiCenso, another fanatical starfleetjedi.net forum user, made the following comment: "If you allow millions of Imperial starships because of the Death Stars, then you probably have to do a similar thing for the Federation since we have seen that they have the industrial capacity to build a fair number of multi-km space stations (Starbase 74, the Utopia Planita space stations, ect) that are each worth thousands of Galaxy or Sovereign class starships in volume and mass."Link

JMSpock responds: "These, too, have shields and weaponry. They have highly sophisticated massive medical facilities, and on-board construction, repair, and refit facilities. These, too, can lumber about systems - watch the opening episode of DS9."Link

Notice how JMSpock dishonestly mixes large Federation starbases, namely Starbase 74 and Utopia Planitia, with vastly smaller Deep Space 9 with his claim that aforementioned starbases' movement capability is demonstrated in the opening episode of Deep Space 9. As a matter of fact larger starbases never demonstrated any capability to move at either sublight or supralight speeds nor have they ever demonstrated any weapon or shield capabilities. Furthermore, DS9 was not even built by the Federation, making it a red herring concerning the capabilities of Federation starbases. In a final act of desperation he tries to use their supposed "massive medical facilities", which have never been shown, as a justification for comparing Federation starbases to it's ships. This is also a perfect example of double standards since above JMSpock argued that Death Star cannot be used as an example of a starship even though it demonstrated all outwards characteristics of a starship while at the same time insisting that Federation starbases can even though they never demonstrated anything but their ability to float in space.


After being pointed out to him that Death Star was built without any shipyards and that therefore smaller ships also won't need any specialized shipyards to be built JMSpock responds: "The station itself is its own shipyard.The infrastructure in question are construction ships, droids, personnel, off-site manufacturing and shipping, etc."Link

Again he offers no explanation why Death Star can act as "it's own shipyard" but other ships can't. He also seems incapable of distinguishing between infrastructure and worker force.


JMSpock trying to justify why constructing Death Star is easier than constructing smaller ships:"It gets easier as they get larger, in fact, thanks to gravity. Microgravity helps keep things from drifting away."Link Another vague statement. How large is the microgravity created by the Death Star during various stages of it's construction? Why would "things" drift away in space where there are no external forces? What "things"? Imperial ships posses artificial gravitation technology and tractor beams which make any lack of gravity irrelevant. Finally that microgravity will subject the Death Star's frame to mechanical stress even before the construction is complete which makes it more difficult to construct than a small ship not less.


JMSpock, after being asked to provide possible mechanisms of planetary destruction that don't require an external object to supply the necessary energy, had this to say: "Matter annihilation" includes fission and fusion. Other methods for turning matter into energy range the scale from particle-antiparticle reactions to chemical reactions to Hawking radiation.Link

Notice that he doesn't explain how exactly fission, fusion or particle-antiparticle reactions could possibly reduce Death Star's energy requirement. Even more laughable is his claim that a chemical reaction might somehow produce sufficient energy to blow up a planet as violently as Alderaan. These kind of dishonest, vague and evasive statements are his trademark.