http://www.stardestroyer.net/wiki/index.php?title=General_Order_24&feed=atom&action=historyGeneral Order 24 - Revision history2024-03-28T09:18:34ZRevision history for this page on the wikiMediaWiki 1.36.2http://www.stardestroyer.net/wiki/index.php?title=General_Order_24&diff=28336&oldid=prevTed C: /* In Versus Debates */2023-04-18T18:45:11Z<p><span dir="auto"><span class="autocomment">In Versus Debates</span></span></p>
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<tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br/></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br/></td></tr>
<tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>In "Mirror, Mirror", the ''[[Terran Empire|ISS Enterprise]]'' orbited the Halkan homeworld, locking onto Halkan cities as they came into phaser range. This operation indicates that General Order 24 would be carried out by systematically destroying major cities and then continuing to less significant targets until the planet's civilization was effectively destroyed. Targets were coming into phaser range every few minutes, and if they had chosen an efficient orbital path for the operation, then each city would presumably be destroyed within a few minutes. Attacking Earth in this manner, it would take a couple of days to destroy every city with a population of at least 1 million. It should also be noted that the Halkans were a peaceful civilization with limited technology, and a more advanced and militarized target would presumably require more time to defeat local defenses.</div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>In "Mirror, Mirror", the ''[[Terran Empire|ISS Enterprise]]'' orbited the Halkan homeworld, locking onto Halkan cities as they came into phaser range. This operation indicates that General Order 24 would be carried out by systematically destroying major cities and then continuing to less significant targets until the planet's civilization was effectively destroyed. Targets were coming into phaser range every few minutes, and if they had chosen an efficient orbital path for the operation, then each city would presumably be destroyed within a few minutes. Attacking <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">[[</ins>Earth<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">]] </ins>in this manner, it would take a couple of days to destroy every city with a population of at least 1 million. It should also be noted that the Halkans were a peaceful civilization with limited technology, and a more advanced and militarized target would presumably require more time to defeat local defenses.</div></td></tr>
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<tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>In any case, without at least a time frame for completion of the assault (Scotty's ultimatum only states how long until the assault will begin), the mere existence of General Order 24 does not demonstrate that Federation ships have greater firepower than any other civilization capable of massive orbital bombardments.</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>In any case, without at least a time frame for completion of the assault (Scotty's ultimatum only states how long until the assault will begin), the mere existence of General Order 24 does not demonstrate that Federation ships have greater firepower than any other civilization capable of massive orbital bombardments.</div></td></tr>
</table>Ted Chttp://www.stardestroyer.net/wiki/index.php?title=General_Order_24&diff=28335&oldid=prevTed C: /* In Versus Debates */2023-04-18T18:44:53Z<p><span dir="auto"><span class="autocomment">In Versus Debates</span></span></p>
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<tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>In "Mirror, Mirror", the ''[[Terran Empire|ISS Enterprise]]'' orbited the Halkan homeworld, locking onto Halkan cities as they came into phaser range. This operation indicates that General Order 24 would be carried out by systematically destroying major cities and then continuing to less significant targets until the planet's civilization was effectively destroyed. Targets were coming into phaser range every few minutes, and if they had chosen an efficient orbital path for the operation, then each city would presumably be destroyed within a few minutes. It should be noted that the Halkans were a peaceful civilization with limited technology, and a more militarized target would presumably require more time to defeat local defenses.</div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>In "Mirror, Mirror", the ''[[Terran Empire|ISS Enterprise]]'' orbited the Halkan homeworld, locking onto Halkan cities as they came into phaser range. This operation indicates that General Order 24 would be carried out by systematically destroying major cities and then continuing to less significant targets until the planet's civilization was effectively destroyed. Targets were coming into phaser range every few minutes, and if they had chosen an efficient orbital path for the operation, then each city would presumably be destroyed within a few minutes<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">. Attacking Earth in this manner, it would take a couple of days to destroy every city with a population of at least 1 million</ins>. It should <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">also </ins>be noted that the Halkans were a peaceful civilization with limited technology, and a more <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">advanced and </ins>militarized target would presumably require more time to defeat local defenses.</div></td></tr>
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</table>Ted Chttp://www.stardestroyer.net/wiki/index.php?title=General_Order_24&diff=28287&oldid=prevTed C: /* In Versus Debates */2023-02-09T19:31:44Z<p><span dir="auto"><span class="autocomment">In Versus Debates</span></span></p>
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</table>Ted Chttp://www.stardestroyer.net/wiki/index.php?title=General_Order_24&diff=28198&oldid=prevTed C: /* In Versus Debates */2022-09-13T16:49:16Z<p><span dir="auto"><span class="autocomment">In Versus Debates</span></span></p>
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<tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>In "Mirror, Mirror", the ''[[Terran Empire|ISS Enterprise]]'' orbited the Halkan homeworld, locking onto Halkan cities as they came into phaser range. This operation indicates that General Order 24 would be carried out by systematically destroying major cities and then continuing to less significant targets until the planet's civilization was effectively destroyed. Targets were coming into phaser range every few minutes, and if they had chosen an efficient orbital path for the operation, then each city would presumably be destroyed within a few minutes. It should be noted that the Halkans were a peaceful civilization with limited technology, and a more militarized target would presumably require more time to defeat local defenses.</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>In "Mirror, Mirror", the ''[[Terran Empire|ISS Enterprise]]'' orbited the Halkan homeworld, locking onto Halkan cities as they came into phaser range. This operation indicates that General Order 24 would be carried out by systematically destroying major cities and then continuing to less significant targets until the planet's civilization was effectively destroyed. Targets were coming into phaser range every few minutes, and if they had chosen an efficient orbital path for the operation, then each city would presumably be destroyed within a few minutes. It should be noted that the Halkans were a peaceful civilization with limited technology, and a more militarized target would presumably require more time to defeat local defenses.</div></td></tr>
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<tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>In any case, without at least a time frame for completion of the assault (Scotty's <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">quote </del>only states how long until the assault will begin), the mere existence of General Order 24 does not demonstrate that Federation ships have greater firepower than any other civilization capable of massive orbital bombardments.</div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>In any case, without at least a time frame for completion of the assault (Scotty's <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">ultimatum </ins>only states how long until the assault will begin), the mere existence of General Order 24 does not demonstrate that Federation ships have greater firepower than any other civilization capable of massive orbital bombardments.</div></td></tr>
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<tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Unfortunately for Trekkies, the statements in "A Taste of Armageddon" aren't specific about the degree of destruction required or the time spent in the attack, and Eminiar VII was actually poorly defended, since they engaged in war with their neighbors using only simulated weapons. A starship armed with dozens of [[photon torpedo|missiles with nuclear yields]] and [[Starship phasers|beam weapons capable of delivering terawatt-level firepower]] would certainly be capable of destroying a planetary civilization, but the extreme levels of destruction implied by the Imperial Base Delta Zero order are not required for General Order 24 (GO24 requires destroying the planet's civilization; BDZ requires eliminating all life and making the planet completely uninhabitable).</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Unfortunately for Trekkies, the statements in "A Taste of Armageddon" aren't specific about the degree of destruction required or the time spent in the attack, and Eminiar VII was actually poorly defended, since they engaged in war with their neighbors using only simulated weapons. A starship armed with dozens of [[photon torpedo|missiles with nuclear yields]] and [[Starship phasers|beam weapons capable of delivering terawatt-level firepower]] would certainly be capable of destroying a planetary civilization, but the extreme levels of destruction implied by the Imperial Base Delta Zero order are not required for General Order 24 (GO24 requires destroying the planet's civilization; BDZ requires eliminating all life and making the planet completely uninhabitable).</div></td></tr>
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<tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>In "Mirror, Mirror", the ''[[Terran Empire|ISS Enterprise]]'' orbited the Halkan homeworld, locking onto Halkan cities as they came into phaser range. This operation indicates that General Order 24 would be carried out <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">be </del>systematically destroying major cities and then continuing to less significant targets until the planet's civilization was effectively destroyed. Targets were coming into phaser range every few minutes, and if they had chosen an efficient orbital path for the operation, then each city would presumably be destroyed within a few minutes. It should be noted that the Halkans were a peaceful civilization with limited technology, and a more militarized target would presumably require more time to defeat local defenses.</div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>In "Mirror, Mirror", the ''[[Terran Empire|ISS Enterprise]]'' orbited the Halkan homeworld, locking onto Halkan cities as they came into phaser range. This operation indicates that General Order 24 would be carried out <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">by </ins>systematically destroying major cities and then continuing to less significant targets until the planet's civilization was effectively destroyed. Targets were coming into phaser range every few minutes, and if they had chosen an efficient orbital path for the operation, then each city would presumably be destroyed within a few minutes. It should be noted that the Halkans were a peaceful civilization with limited technology, and a more militarized target would presumably require more time to defeat local defenses.</div></td></tr>
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<tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>In any case, without at least a time frame for completion of the assault (Scotty's quote only states how long until the assault will begin), the mere existence of General Order 24 does not demonstrate that Federation ships have greater firepower than any other civilization capable of massive orbital bombardments.</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>In any case, without at least a time frame for completion of the assault (Scotty's quote only states how long until the assault will begin), the mere existence of General Order 24 does not demonstrate that Federation ships have greater firepower than any other civilization capable of massive orbital bombardments.</div></td></tr>
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<tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>In "Mirror, Mirror", the ''[[Terran Empire|ISS Enterprise]]'' orbited the Halkan homeworld, locking onto Halkan cities as they came into phaser range. This operation indicates that General Order 24 would be carried out be systematically destroying major cities and then continuing to less significant targets until the planet's civilization was effectively destroyed. Targets were coming into phaser range every few minutes, and if they had chosen an efficient orbital path for the operation, then each city would presumably destroyed within a few minutes. It should be noted that the Halkans were a peaceful civilization with limited technology, and a more militarized target would presumably require more time to defeat local defenses.</div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>In "Mirror, Mirror", the ''[[Terran Empire|ISS Enterprise]]'' orbited the Halkan homeworld, locking onto Halkan cities as they came into phaser range. This operation indicates that General Order 24 would be carried out be systematically destroying major cities and then continuing to less significant targets until the planet's civilization was effectively destroyed. Targets were coming into phaser range every few minutes, and if they had chosen an efficient orbital path for the operation, then each city would presumably <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">be </ins>destroyed within a few minutes. It should be noted that the Halkans were a peaceful civilization with limited technology, and a more militarized target would presumably require more time to defeat local defenses.</div></td></tr>
<tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br/></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br/></td></tr>
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<tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>In "Mirror, Mirror", the ''[[Terran Empire|ISS Enterprise]]'' orbited the Halkan, locking onto Halkan cities as they came into phaser range. This operation indicates that General Order 24 would be carried out be systematically destroying major cities and then continuing to less significant targets until the planet's civilization was effectively destroyed. Targets were coming into phaser range every few minutes, and if they had chosen an efficient orbital path for the operation, then each city would presumably destroyed within a few minutes. It should be noted that the Halkans were a peaceful civilization with limited technology, and a more militarized target would presumably require more time to defeat local defenses.</div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>In "Mirror, Mirror", the ''[[Terran Empire|ISS Enterprise]]'' orbited the Halkan <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">homeworld</ins>, locking onto Halkan cities as they came into phaser range. This operation indicates that General Order 24 would be carried out be systematically destroying major cities and then continuing to less significant targets until the planet's civilization was effectively destroyed. Targets were coming into phaser range every few minutes, and if they had chosen an efficient orbital path for the operation, then each city would presumably destroyed within a few minutes. It should be noted that the Halkans were a peaceful civilization with limited technology, and a more militarized target would presumably require more time to defeat local defenses.</div></td></tr>
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<tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>In "Mirror, Mirror", the ''ISS Enterprise'' orbited the Halkan, locking onto Halkan cities as they came into phaser range. This operation indicates that General Order 24 would be carried out be systematically destroying major cities and then continuing to less significant targets until the planet's civilization was effectively destroyed. Targets were coming into phaser range every few minutes, and if they had chosen an efficient orbital path for the operation, then each city would presumably destroyed within a few minutes. It should be noted that the Halkans were a peaceful civilization with limited technology, and a more militarized target would presumably require more time to defeat local defenses.</div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>In "Mirror, Mirror", the ''<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">[[Terran Empire|</ins>ISS Enterprise<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">]]</ins>'' orbited the Halkan, locking onto Halkan cities as they came into phaser range. This operation indicates that General Order 24 would be carried out be systematically destroying major cities and then continuing to less significant targets until the planet's civilization was effectively destroyed. Targets were coming into phaser range every few minutes, and if they had chosen an efficient orbital path for the operation, then each city would presumably destroyed within a few minutes. It should be noted that the Halkans were a peaceful civilization with limited technology, and a more militarized target would presumably require more time to defeat local defenses.</div></td></tr>
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<tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>In any case, without at least a time frame for completion of the assault (Scotty's quote only states how long until the assault will begin), the mere existence of General Order 24 does not demonstrate that Federation ships have greater firepower than any other civilization capable of massive orbital bombardments.</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>In any case, without at least a time frame for completion of the assault (Scotty's quote only states how long until the assault will begin), the mere existence of General Order 24 does not demonstrate that Federation ships have greater firepower than any other civilization capable of massive orbital bombardments.</div></td></tr>
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<tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>In "Mirror, Mirror", the ''ISS Enterprise'' orbited the Halkan, locking onto Halkan cities as they came into phaser range. This operation indicates that General Order 24 would be carried out be systematically destroying major cities and then continuing to less significant targets until the planet's civilization was effectively destroyed.</div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>In "Mirror, Mirror", the ''ISS Enterprise'' orbited the Halkan, locking onto Halkan cities as they came into phaser range. This operation indicates that General Order 24 would be carried out be systematically destroying major cities and then continuing to less significant targets until the planet's civilization was effectively destroyed<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">. Targets were coming into phaser range every few minutes, and if they had chosen an efficient orbital path for the operation, then each city would presumably destroyed within a few minutes. It should be noted that the Halkans were a peaceful civilization with limited technology, and a more militarized target would presumably require more time to defeat local defenses</ins>.</div></td></tr>
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<tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>In any case, without at least a time frame for completion of the assault (Scotty's quote only states how long until the assault will begin), the mere existence of General Order 24 does not demonstrate that Federation ships have greater firepower than any other civilization capable of massive orbital bombardments.</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>In any case, without at least a time frame for completion of the assault (Scotty's quote only states how long until the assault will begin), the mere existence of General Order 24 does not demonstrate that Federation ships have greater firepower than any other civilization capable of massive orbital bombardments.</div></td></tr>
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